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26 Apr 2009 20:02 #1 by Malcolm
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So if The Juggernaut and The Blob fought, who would win?

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26 Apr 2009 21:12 #2 by Woolsey Bysmor
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Juggernaut wins... the Blob has weak spots.

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26 Apr 2009 21:20 #3 by Elawyn
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Agreed, Blob has no abilities that could get under the helmut or past the Juggernauts gem.

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26 Apr 2009 22:17 #4 by Jarons20
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By the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, Juggernaut trumps Blob

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26 Apr 2009 22:27 #5 by McDermitt
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Thor could also move the Blob as well as the Hulk.

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26 Apr 2009 22:33 #6 by Odo Garaath
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The Blob, if he practiced and understood his power, he would more than likely be able to slow the Juggernaut to a standstill, however, he trains by eating friend chicken and Janet Pym

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26 Apr 2009 22:51 #7 by GJSchaller
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Unstoppable Force.

Immovable Object.

Hmm....

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26 Apr 2009 23:41 #8 by geezer
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Way too much time.

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26 Apr 2009 23:55 #9 by Alexandre Blythewood
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I have some vague recollection of hearing about an X-Men comic in which the Juggernaut ran into the Blob.  I believe the Juggernaut was actually stopped, but the Blob was also knocked 10 feet away and fell on his ass.

Could just be hearsay, though.

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27 Apr 2009 17:02 #10 by McDermitt
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I dont know why

but this thread kinda rules

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28 Apr 2009 10:06 #11 by JoDios
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Juggernaut wins...until Dr. Doom figures out a way to beat them both.

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04 May 2009 01:56 #12 by WayaMilenko
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Blob, while not able to be moved when planted still has a skull that would crack open when hit with a running Juggernaut  helmet smash

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04 May 2009 13:12 #13 by Bladesworn
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Did Pheonix ever take on Juggernaut?

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04 May 2009 17:18 #14 by Elawyn
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Not sure on Phoenix, but Jean did - she popped the bolts on the helmut, if I recall, with telekinesis and got inside his brain. 

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05 May 2009 00:21 #15 by Tiriel
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Oh my god, why am I here?

OK, there have been plenty of examples of what happens when sufficiently strong characters try to move Blob... they move the ground he stands on, as his power sort of anchors him to the ground.  Hence, Thor, hulk and Juggernaut could all move the Blob, barring Blob's standing on a solid adamantium structure that weights significantly more than 100 tons.

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05 May 2009 00:37 #16 by Bladesworn
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I was trying to figure out what trumps what... especially when it comes to mutant powers versus magic.  As T stated, unless the Blob is standing on something that cannot be broken and weighs over 100 tons or so, he cannot be moved.  As for the Juggernaut,the magic gem that gave him his powers says he cannot be physically stopped.

So I was wondering what happens when the Blob or Juggernaut face off a galactically powered being.  Silver Surfer,Galactus, Pheonix...  or if/when they face off against a magically powered being (aka Dr. Doom, Scarlet Witch, etc...).

Unfortunately, my knowledge of comic book geek powers and levels aren't really comparable to the folks I see here on this board.  ;)

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05 May 2009 00:57 #17 by Alexandre Blythewood
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Awesome happens.

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05 May 2009 05:55 #18 by Odo Garaath
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Juggernaut is a magical being in theory.

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05 May 2009 07:29 #19 by GJSchaller
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From Wikipedia:

He can also alter his personal mono-directional gravity field beneath himself to make himself virtually immovable as long as he is in contact with the ground, although an incredible force can uproot him, along with a chunk of whatever he is standing on. The only beings on record to have been able to move the Blob against his wishes are the Hulk, Juggernaut, and Strong Guy (powered-up near his limit by absorbing kinetic energy), although Colossus has managed to lift Dukes by digging underground and raising the piece of earth Dukes stands on, stating this as an exception to his immovability.



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05 May 2009 09:46 #20 by Bladesworn
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Ok, but what of Juggernaut?  If Juggernaut decides to move in a certain direction, and this PO's someone super being... let's say Silver Surfer... can Surfer stop Juggernaut?  Or is the magic gem thingy going to trump a galactic being?

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06 May 2009 06:16 #21 by Quin
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Juggernaut is a magical being in theory.


That just reminded me of something that he said all the time on the tv show-
"You stupid mutant, you can't stop me, my powers are magical!"

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06 May 2009 09:58 #22 by Odo Garaath
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Juggernaut is a magical being in theory.


That just reminded me of something that he said all the time on the tv show-
"You stupid mutant, you can't stop me, my powers are magical!"


The Gem, which was crafted by Cytorak, gave a small bit of power to whosoever held it. Actually, when Juggs turns good, he becomes less powerful, failing to appease the gem. Juggernaut is forced to be a bad guy or else he loses the power of the gem and dies.

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